How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

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Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

How should I go about convincing my mother that my foreign online boyfriend isn't out to get my holes or scam me?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Does anyone in the Middle East even understand the reasons for the continuous conflicts as the reasons were understood when the conflicts all started? Is it possible that everything began when two ancient shepherds were playing tricks on each other?

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

then who is there to know what happens without?

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

What are the advantages of using plastic straws over metal or glass straws when drinking carbonated beverages? Is there a noticeable difference in taste?

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

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ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

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Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

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All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Why does my dog keep licking at her privates now? She is 7 years old and has barely started licking there. The vet said she’s fine but she keeps doing that.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

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ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Kabir (a weaver)

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

NOW…

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

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Raamaanand Jee, First House:

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

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ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Now here in this verse

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

CONCLUSION:

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

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I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Sain (a barber)

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)